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Poster: dire--wolf Date: Oct 22, 2005 3:59am
Forum: etree Subject: converting shn and flac to wav?

do we have to do this? what is the purpose? what is the difference?

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Poster: Carlo Marx Date: Oct 23, 2005 4:05am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: converting shn and flac to wav?

"WAV is uncompressed and offers the highest quality digital representation of the sound": I-Pod and I-Tunes for Dummies.

My understanding, shn and flac are transmittal formats, superior to any MP3 because they are "lossless". The full digital file (wav) can be reconstructed so that no music is lost.

How it is possible to drop bits and then recreate them is a mystery to me.

Nevertheless, WAV does sound better.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Oct 23, 2005 10:39am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: converting shn and flac to wav?

How it is possible to drop bits and then recreate them is a mystery to me.

They're not being dropped...just temporarily compressed. Think of it like zipping up a .doc file...

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Poster: Carlo Marx Date: Oct 24, 2005 7:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: converting shn and flac to wav?

I'm sceptical that any compression can completely avoid affecting the music, but the effect would be small and there's no denying the many great sounding shows here in shn and flac.

GDP is now offering downloads in flac. The latest (Vol. 6 3/17/68) sounds terrific. I guess regular CDs are on the way out.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Oct 24, 2005 9:51am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: converting shn and flac to wav?

Lossless means that you can take wav data, turn it into say flac for a while and then turn it back into *exactly* the same wav data whenever you like. It's just a reversible mathematical operation on the bytes. The effect is only temporary.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-10-24 16:51:00

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Poster: Carlo Marx Date: Oct 25, 2005 1:22am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: converting shn and flac to wav?

What's supposed to be "the same" is not always the same. I take that to be the implication of your quotation marks around "exactly."
Nevertheless, what's happening at LMA is amazing. For a lot of us, this is one of the most interesting things on the internet. I don't know why downloads can't simply occur in WAV, but if translation in and out of shn or flac is necessary, so be it. The results speak for themselves.
We all owe a debt of gratitude to the pioneering tape traders out there, but this is much better.

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Poster: Fishead Date: Oct 22, 2005 6:12am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: converting shn and flac to wav?

far as i know this must be done so you can burn the shows to cdr so you can listen to them on your home stereo ,etc...

i think there are programs avail to bypass this step .but i'm not too sure on that .

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Oct 22, 2005 7:56am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: converting shn and flac to wav?

Personally, I'd rather listen to stuff on my good-quality home stereo rather than my poor-quality PC speakers. That requires audio CDs for my system.

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Poster: kennyd Date: Oct 22, 2005 6:18am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: converting shn and flac to wav?

No, you do not have to do this if you just want to listen to the music sitting on your hard drive.

The prupose is, like the other poster said, to burn the music to a cd for the purposes of listening in a car, etc...

There is no difference that I know of other than that.

P.S. Converting to a compressed music file like ogg or mp3 DOES have one huge advantage. That is it can make a 700mb show in .flac format turn into a 120mb show in good quality .mp3 format.

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Poster: dire--wolf Date: Oct 22, 2005 9:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: converting shn and flac to wav?

i currently use winamp. i download files, copy to winamp and them burn the cd with winamp. as far as i know it is done. i can play in my car and on the home stereo.

pardon my ignorance but where dose wav come into play in that mix?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Oct 22, 2005 10:17am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: converting shn and flac to wav?

Probably some function of your Winamp plugins for playing the files allows that to happen. The docs for your plugins or Winamp itself may cover the specific mechanism of that. Some form of audio output is getting burned to your audio CDs.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-10-22 17:17:32

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